Some comments for Englishbaby...

Some comments for Englishbaby…

Well… Thanks to englishbaby for this forum website, and from this free website, I and others can communicate each other and practice our english.
Just for positive comments,

First about this advertise below is not suitable for me and other kids…. (Because she wear bikini):


Second: about the forum… When I reply a topic from this forum, all comments that I wrote doesn't display what others comment before…

for example:

Re: We Need to Respect each other on this Website   Truth wrote: 

• muslimgal wrote:
  

• i think they shud use PM hence the reason its there

I see, but i mean, it is not even the picture of a real girl, it is drawn, and also, haven't you ever studied female biology? xD or seen a western movie with a girl in bikini? or watching a videoclip with a girl in bikini or anything else?

I mean even if i try to think about it with open mind I can not understand the complaint because of a drawn of a girl wearing bikini.

Also, ''suitable for me and other kids''? You are 25! I mean c'mon xD

Santiagoc;

Thanks for reply… Under Islamic law, a man and a women must covering themselves (their part of body). It has missions for all the law.

This 'cover' we call it as HIJAB

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HIJAB FOR WOMEN

Question:

Why does Islam degrade women by keeping them behind the veil?

Answer:

The status of women in Islam is often the target of attacks in the secular media.

The ‘hijab’ or the Islamic dress is cited by many as an example of the ‘subjugation’ of women under Islamic law. Before we analyze the reasoning behind the religiously mandated ‘hijab’, let us first study the status of women in societies before the advent of Islam

1. In the past women were degraded and used as objects of lust

The following examples from history amply illustrate the fact that the status of women in earlier civilizations was very low to the extent that they were denied basic human dignity:

a. Babylonian Civilization:

The women were degraded and were denied all rights under the Babylonian law. If a man murdered a woman, instead of him being punished, his wife was put to death.

b. Greek Civilization:

Greek Civilization is considered the most glorious of all ancient civilizations. Under this very ‘glorious’ system, women were deprived of all rights and were looked down upon. In Greek mythology, an ‘imaginary woman’ called ‘Pandora’ is the root cause of misfortune of human beings. The Greeks considered women to be subhuman and inferior to men. Though chastity of women was precious, and women were held in high esteem, the Greeks were later overwhelmed by ego and sexual perversions. Prostitution became a regular practice amongst all classes of Greek society.

c. Roman Civilization:

When Roman Civilization was at the zenith of its ‘glory’, a man even had the right to take the life of his wife. Prostitution and nudity were common amongst the Romans.

d. Egyptian Civilization:

The Egyptian considered women evil and as a sign of a devil.

e. Pre-Islamic Arabia:

Before Islam spread in Arabia, the Arabs looked down upon women and very often when a female child was born, she was buried alive.

2. Islam uplifted women and gave them equality and expects them to maintain their status.

Islam uplifted the status of women and granted them their just rights 1400 years ago. Islam expects women to maintain their status.

Hijab for men

People usually only discuss ‘hijab’ in the context of women. However, in the Glorious Qur’an, Allah (swt) first mentions ‘hijab’ for men before ‘hijab’ for the women.

The Qur’an mentions in Surah Noor:

“Say to the believing men that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty: that will make for greater purity for them: and Allah is well acquainted with all that they do.”

[Al-Qur'an 24:30]

The moment a man looks at a woman and if any brazen or unashamed thought comes to his mind, he should lower his gaze.

Hijab for women.

The next verse of Surah Noor, says:

” And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what (must ordinarily) appear thereof; that they should draw veils over their bosoms and not display their beauty except to their husbands, their fathers, their husbands’ fathers, their sons…”

[Al-Qur'an 24:31]

3. Six criteria for Hijab.

According to Qur’an and Sunnah there are basically six criteria for observing hijab:

1. Extent:

The first criterion is the extent of the body that should be covered. This is different for men and women. The extent of covering obligatory on the male is to cover the body at least from the navel to the knees. For women, the extent of covering obligatory is to cover the complete body except the face and the hands upto the wrist. If they wish to, they can cover even these parts of the body. Some scholars of Islam insist that the face and the hands are part of the obligatory extent of ‘hijab’. All the remaining five criteria are the same for men and women.

2. The clothes worn should be loose and should not reveal the figure.

3. The clothes worn should not be transparent such that one can see through them.

4. The clothes worn should not be so glamorous as to attract the opposite sex.

5. The clothes worn should not resemble that of the opposite sex.

6. The clothes worn should not resemble that of the unbelievers i.e. they should not wear clothes that are specifically identities or symbols of the unbelievers’ religions.

4. Hijab includes conduct and behaviour among other things

Complete ‘hijab’, besides the six criteria of clothing, also includes the moral conduct, behaviour, attitude and intention of the individual. A person only fulfilling the criteria of ‘hijab’ of the clothes is observing ‘hijab’ in a limited sense. ‘Hijab’ of the clothes should be accompanied by ‘hijab’ of the eyes, ‘hijab’ of the heart, ‘hijab’ of thought and ‘hijab’ of intention. It also includes the way a person walks, the way a person talks, the way he behaves, etc.

5. Hijab prevents molestation

The reason why Hijab is prescribed for women is mentioned in the Qur’an in the following verses of Surah Al-Ahzab:

“O Prophet! Tell thy wives and daughters, and the believing women that they should cast their outer garments over their persons (when abroad); that is most convenient, that they should be known (as such) and not molested. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.”

[Al-Qur'an 33:59]

The Qur’an says that Hijab has been prescribed for the women so that they are recognized as modest women and this will also prevent them from being molested.

6. Example of twin sisters

Suppose two sisters who are twins, and who are equally beautiful, walk down the street. One of them is attired in the Islamic hijab i.e. the complete body is covered, except for the face and the hands up to the wrists. The other sister is wearing western clothes, a mini skirt or shorts. Just around the corner there is a hooligan or ruffian who is waiting for a catch, to tease a girl. Whom will he tease? The girl wearing the Islamic Hijab or the girl wearing the skirt or the mini? Naturally he will tease the girl wearing the skirt or the mini. Such dresses are an indirect invitation to the opposite sex for teasing and molestation. The Qur’an rightly says that hijab prevents women from being molested.

7. Capital punishment for the rapists

Under the Islamic shariah, a man convicted of having raped a woman, is given capital punishment. Many are astonished at this ‘harsh’ sentence. Some even say that Islam is a ruthless, barbaric religion! I have asked a simple question to hundreds of non-Muslim men. Suppose, God forbid, someone rapes your wife, your mother or your sister. You are made the judge and the rapist is brought in front of you. What punishment would you give him? All of them said they would put him to death. Some went to the extent of saying they would torture him to death. To them I ask, if someone rapes your wife or your mother you want to put him to death. But if the same crime is committed on somebody else’s wife or daughter you say capital punishment is barbaric. Why should there be double standards?

8. Western society falsely claims to have uplifted women

Western talk of women’s liberalization is nothing but a disguised form of exploitation of her body, degradation of her soul, and deprivation of her honour. Western society claims to have ‘uplifted’ women. On the contrary it has actually degraded them to the status of concubines, mistresses and society butterflies who are mere tools in the hands of pleasure seekers and sex marketeers, hidden behind the colourful screen of ‘art’ and ‘culture’.

9. USA has one of the highest rates of rape

United States of America is supposed to be one of the most advanced countries of the world. It also has one of the highest rates of rape in any country in the world. According to a FBI report, in the year 1990, every day on an average 1756 cases of rape were committed in U.S.A alone. Later another report said that on an average everyday 1900 cases of rapes are committed in USA. The year was not mentioned. May be it was 1992 or 1993. May be the Americans got ‘bolder’ in the following years. Consider a scenario where the Islamic hijab is followed in America. Whenever a man looks at a woman and any brazen or unashamed thought comes to his mind, he lowers his gaze. Every woman wears the Islamic hijab, that is the complete body is covered except the face and the hands upto the wrist. After this if any man commits rape he is given capital punishment. I ask you, in such a scenario, will the rate of rape in America increase, will it remain the same, or will it decrease?

10. Implementation of Islamic Shariah will reduce the rate of rapes

Naturally as soon as Islamic Shariah is implemented positive results will be inevitable. If Islamic Shariah is implemented in any part of the world, whether it is America or Europe, society will breathe easier. Hijab does not degrade a woman but uplifts a woman and protects her modesty and chastity.

ref: Dr Zakir Naik

what's the problem about she wearing bikini? haven't you ever been to the beach? I mean it is a woman wearing bikini xD what is strange about that?

It's gross seeing the fat girl in it. That's problem number one.

Second of all, it's unsuitable for some people that have certain sensibilities. Why should people be FORCED to stare at it, as is the case now?

@you:

9. USA has one of the highest rates of rape

Does it? Mostly in rural areas where other factors play roles.

Even so, these Islamic countries have their own fair share of rape, it's just nor recorded or talked about.

Need I mention the rape committed by Iranian authorities against female protesters?

Need I mention the constant rape that happens in dictatorships such as formerly Saddam Hussein's Iraq?

Need I mention the war-zones where rape is commonly used as a weapon?

Don't point to other countries. Rape, unfortunately, happens everywhere and has nothing to do with whether women put sheets on themselves.

8. Western society falsely claims to have uplifted women

Western talk of women’s liberalization is nothing but a disguised form of exploitation of her body, degradation of her soul, and deprivation of her honour. Western society claims to have ‘uplifted’ women. On the contrary it has actually degraded them to the status of concubines, mistresses and society butterflies who are mere tools in the hands of pleasure seekers and sex marketeers, hidden behind the colourful screen of ‘art’ and ‘culture’.

This is among the biggest load of condescending garbage I've ever read.

Women are definitely empowered in Western society and both they and society are better off for it.

Contrast this with Islamic countries where domestic violence, low rates of women in the workforce are the norm.

If women were given the choice, they would overwhelmingly choose to live in the West and not in any Islamic country where they have no rights, and their male counterparts have all of them.

Is Western society over-sexualized? Yes it is, and I'm definitely someone who will say so. 

Does that mean that Islamic society, which puts taboos on all things sexual is the better option? Where women stay at home all day with no other opportunities? Definitely not.

This description of 'fake progress for women in the West' is obviously written by someone who does not live there and wishes to kid him or herself into thinking that they're not missing any of the large number of advantages that Western women have. The only idea the person has is a stereotype from either movies or TV commercials about American life. This indeed is the problem that many of the Muslim users have with their image of the West: they haven't a clue of how life is outside of the box.

To put it briefly: Rather oversexualized culture, where one has the free will to choose right and wrong, than a prison with no rights and where your husband beats you every day.

Thanks Fabs for that explanation,

My friend asked me to watch a best film: ARRANGED. This film explained the life of Muslim and Jew.

In this film, you will learned, how these clothes are important in these two religion, Islam and Jew.

Thanks to ENGLISHBABY.

After the comment of bikini girl's advertisement, I haven't see again this advertisement in this Englishbaby.com.

I hope, this advertisement was deleted by Englishbaby.com

Thanks again….

Given my religion, I know about modest dress.

I think it's perferable and honourable, but your thinking and reasoning for it are wrong.

In Judaism women do not cover up because they're afraid of men raping them (heaven forbid), but because of the religious virtue of tznius , 'modesty' which applies to both women AND MEN. Thus men are not supposed to wear sleaves shorter than their elbows for instance.

Fear that it attacts male attention is not the reason behind these laws.

In Judaism women do not cover up because they're afraid of men raping them (heaven forbid), but because of the religious virtue of tznius , 'modesty' which applies to both women AND MEN. Thus men are not supposed to wear sleaves shorter than their elbows for instance.

In Islam, women cover up herself because the law of HIJAB told them to do that. About the 'rapes'... we all didn't cover up because afraid of the rapes tragedy.

But, what I want to explain here, all the law in Islam have its mission and benefits. This hijab, at least it's could be one of the method to prevent this 'rapes tragedy'.

It's gross seeing the fat girl in it. That's problem number one.

So if she were a skinny girl it wouldn't be gross? What a nice value! This is the kind of comments that pisses me off.

it's unsuitable for some people that have certain sensibilities. Why should people be FORCED to stare at it, as is the case now? 

You are not forced, just don't look at it and never minded. I don't know any person who have gotten traumated for all his life because of watching a the drawn of a girl wearing bikini. In this case, It would be also unsuitable for me to see a woman covering all her body, with a slave behaviour in front of his husband when I do hate this this kind of sexism, but when I went to Spain I had to see it and I also can see it (not very common, but I have seen a couple of women covering all her bodies in summer) in Uruguay. Why should I be forced to stare at it in both my countries and both western? If I'd complain, what would happen? Surely I am the bad one who is gonna go to hell

So if she were a skinny girl it wouldn't be gross? What a nice value! This is the kind of comments that pisses me off.

Cool it. Obviously by saying 'that's the number one problem' I indicated that I was joking.

People should have the choice what they want to look at. Just because it's acceptable to your tastes, doesn't mean that it is that way for other people.

It should be there choice what they should be subjected to watch.

Posting an image of a girl in a bikini is simply not acceptable to some people, and not when they come to the site for different reasons. 

If I don't want to look at this image, or any other image (say some advertisement for gay porn), why shouldn't I be able to turn it off? It has nothing to with the site and its usual content, but is forced advertisement.

But, what I want to explain here, all the law in Islam have its mission and benefits. This hijab, at least it's could be one of the method to prevent this 'rapes tragedy'.

A crazy, violent man who can't control himself won't be stopped by a hijab. 

Look, I do see what you mean, but this problem would persist regardless and I don't think it has anything to do with how women dress.